Comments on: Liberals Value Freedom More… PSYCH!!! http://www.ipandora.net/2007/03/02/liberals-value-freedom-more-in-select-cases/ Guns don't kill people, dads with pretty daughters do Wed, 01 Sep 2010 13:46:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: JPennStar http://www.ipandora.net/2007/03/02/liberals-value-freedom-more-in-select-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-75 JPennStar Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:28:21 +0000 http://www.ipandora.net/?p=75#comment-75 Victoria acts as if all is relative. ? . Well its not and either one is right or all is wrong. While I agree that both may hold their beliefs as a domatic thing, but there are rational arguments based on logic and history for Christianity and NOT brute force or emotions. Victoria also sounds as if conservativism and Christianity go hand 'n hand, that is also not necessarily true. The founding fathers were prodominently Christian and also liberals, liberating from the totalitarian British government; while the British would've been conservative; thus the word is based on context. Christianity, on the other hand, has eternal meaning. I do believe I see what she's trying to say though, that people can be very stubborn from both sides. As you said Matt, thats not a very good point. My question would be then, what are you if you're not a liberal or conservative; I see you asked the same. :) Victoria acts as if all is relative. ? . Well its not and either one is right or all is wrong. While I agree that both may hold their beliefs as a domatic thing, but there are rational arguments based on logic and history for Christianity and NOT brute force or emotions. Victoria also sounds as if conservativism and Christianity go hand ‘n hand, that is also not necessarily true. The founding fathers were prodominently Christian and also liberals, liberating from the totalitarian British government; while the British would’ve been conservative; thus the word is based on context. Christianity, on the other hand, has eternal meaning.

I do believe I see what she’s trying to say though, that people can be very stubborn from both sides. As you said Matt, thats not a very good point. My question would be then, what are you if you’re not a liberal or conservative; I see you asked the same. :)

]]> By: <img src='http://www.ipandora.net/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/openid.png'/> matthew http://www.ipandora.net/2007/03/02/liberals-value-freedom-more-in-select-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-74 matthew Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:03:43 +0000 http://www.ipandora.net/?p=75#comment-74 Understood, but therein also lies the blade. Is there any way to write anything shorter than a full treatise or tome which will capture fully the plethora of sub-issues involved in any major issue. I recognize that is a danger of taking on large or fundamental issues: generalizations must occur, permutations must lie undiscovered or undiscussed. But that's why I post this here instead of in my diary, so people like you can expand upon it through comments. Adding generally to all the readers knowledge. If you can, think of this and perhaps write an article regarding specifically the economic and moral stance which should identify you or your epitome of the proper body politic. I'd happily post it as a guest authored article. Understood, but therein also lies the blade. Is there any way to write anything shorter than a full treatise or tome which will capture fully the plethora of sub-issues involved in any major issue. I recognize that is a danger of taking on large or fundamental issues: generalizations must occur, permutations must lie undiscovered or undiscussed.

But that’s why I post this here instead of in my diary, so people like you can expand upon it through comments. Adding generally to all the readers knowledge. If you can, think of this and perhaps write an article regarding specifically the economic and moral stance which should identify you or your epitome of the proper body politic. I’d happily post it as a guest authored article.

]]> By: Victoria http://www.ipandora.net/2007/03/02/liberals-value-freedom-more-in-select-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-73 Victoria Mon, 05 Mar 2007 03:27:30 +0000 http://www.ipandora.net/?p=75#comment-73 Not sure. I just wanted to point out that it's much more complicated than you were making it seem, as we all have very different ideas about the meaning of freedom (and justice). Not sure. I just wanted to point out that it’s much more complicated than you were making it seem, as we all have very different ideas about the meaning of freedom (and justice).

]]> By: <img src='http://www.ipandora.net/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/openid.png'/> matthew http://www.ipandora.net/2007/03/02/liberals-value-freedom-more-in-select-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-67 matthew Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:11:16 +0000 http://www.ipandora.net/?p=75#comment-67 Wow, now that is profound. So what would you say is the proper medium? Wow, now that is profound. So what would you say is the proper medium?

]]> By: Victoria http://www.ipandora.net/2007/03/02/liberals-value-freedom-more-in-select-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-66 Victoria Sat, 03 Mar 2007 06:41:14 +0000 http://www.ipandora.net/?p=75#comment-66 Conservatives are economic individualists, moral collectivists; liberals, the opposite. Blinders on both sides. Conservatives are economic individualists, moral collectivists; liberals, the opposite. Blinders on both sides.

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